Icarus Iscariot's Posts

Icarus,

We have one principle here: Respect Your Fellow Writer. Your posts in this thread don't show any such consideration.

Please be civil.

In my opinion...

A real writer is someone who writes. We all have different goals in that respect, and this is a community that respects those differences.

A real gentleman is someone who doesn't stoop to general nastiness for the sake of drawing attention, and who respects the community's presence.

ETA: And I see no honesty in someone with 10 posts claiming to know whether there's anything of value in a site as big as this.

Criggs, I'm so sorry your newbie post has gotten this response. I hope you stick around long enough to find out that this sort of nastiness is very much in the minority

Icarus Iscariot said:

what's more respectful than the truth, than honesty? and if i happen to stumble across a 'real' writer, i'll act a perfect gentlemen.

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You haven't made this about truth or honesty. You're just gunning for a reaction, nothing more. Your own newbie post indicates your desire for any sort of attention.

There's no need; I offered the privacy in case you wanted it. Your posts *were* vulgar, and they were discourteous to the other members here. I didn't delete them out of disagreement; they were pointless and mean-spirited.

I'm splitting all of this out to a new thread; criggs deserves better than this.

And I'll reinstate the deleted posts, so people can see for themselves.

I don't think thie board actually forbids vulgarity.
The only rule is: respect your fellow writer. You're showing lack of respect, Icarus.

If you don't think the other members of this board are your fellow writers, why are you here?

Ya know, it's not actually 1984 every time someone enforces one simple rule.

You might want to read, or reread, the book if you can't see the difference.

Geesh.

Icarus Iscariot said:

what's more respectful than the truth, than honesty? and if i happen to stumble across a 'real' writer, i'll act a perfect gentlemen.

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I am wondering what you call a "real writer".

A writer, simply put is one who writes. Everyone who writes on a regular basis is considered a writer whether or not they have ever been published.

Writers can mean those who write for newspapers or those who write fiction, those who write for medical journals, or those who write TV sitcom scripts. They all write. They all get Writer's Block. If I was to start detailing all of them, I'd have to write an encyclopedia on the subject, so, for the sake of simplicity, in this post, we will assume that you are thinking of a writer as one who writes fiction in novel or short story format. Now, back to the question: What is a writer?

A writer is someone who writes, probably every day or nearly so. Usually they feel compelled to write, as though they have no control over it. It is as though they will die if they cannot write something down. Their every fiber burns with the sensation, the uncontrollable passion, that they must put words to paper in order to survive. They feel every emotion their characters feel: the love, the pain, the horror, the fear, the anxiety, and the lust for adventure. They not only feel their characters, they become their characters. Everything in life sparks a new story idea. They awake at night from their sleep to jot down in notebooks. They pull their car off the road to write down ideas on the edges of maps. They are obsessed with the fever that is coming known as writing. That is a writer.

An author however, is generally perceived as a writer who has been published. For some writers, it is enough that they write, publishing their work is not their goal. For most writers, however, the goal is to become a published author. The trick is being published. You have many options.

It must also be remembered that everyone started out as a hobby writer before they could become a published author... even Stephen King started out a hobby writer.

Anyways, how many books, novels, stories, articles, and plays need to be published before you consider one to be a writer?

This forum is for writers of all levels, from those just starting out to those who've been published for many years. So, yes, you are going to find a lot of people on here seeking advice; that is after all, the purpose of the forum: for those who know the answer to give advice to those asking the questions.

I need a score card and a good solid round of electro shock. Somebody rub my head.

Icarus Iscariot said:

don't get your hopes up. i've poked around this site for the past few nights. you'd have a better time going to the mall, reading the $h!t scrolled on the bathroom stalls. best of luck, though. and if you happen to find something interesting, let me know. later, chinaski.

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You say this is humor, but it seems nobody got the joke. Sorry if that offends you!

When I tell a joke and it falls flat and upsets people, I get embarrassed, try to backtrack if I can, and keep quiet while hoping they'll forget about it. If you stop trying to defend your joke and just relax a bit, I'm sure you'll find we are all quite friendly here.

Anyway, why don't we try this again. Here's the welcome parade:

No real writers here. Just people who write for a living.