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Old 03-30-2009, 10:34 PM   #1376
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Alex, try to focus on the book you're working on now. That will help. It's not uncommon for an agented ms to go unsold, so don't feel alone there. If that one doesn't sell, chances are your next one will. Chin up! All is not lost.
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Old 03-31-2009, 01:43 AM   #1377
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Feeling your pain, AlexAlex. But you're not dead in the water yet.

Keeping things crossed for you.
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Hang, Alex, Hang. I'm a survivor of what you're going through. Editorial purchashing is so tight right now it squeaks. But they are still buying for books that will debut a year to 18 months from now, which might belay the thoughts of an economy recovery.

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*hugs alex*

I think putting all your focus on a new book is the best idea. Right now that book on sub is out of your hands. There's sweet FA you can do about it.

I know that sucks, but maybe there will be other options to look at if it doesn't sell.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:14 PM   #1380
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I have another question again. Just wondering how long it took before you got your signed contract back from agent?
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Old 04-01-2009, 02:03 AM   #1382
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Mine sent me two copies of the contract already signed by the agency. I had to sign both and send one back. I got them in the mail about a week after accepting the offer.
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I've officially moved on to the next stage of limbo: I'm out on submission! Very nervous This is when the doubt really seems to rear its head.
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I've officially moved on to the next stage of limbo: I'm out on submission! Very nervous This is when the doubt really seems to rear its head.
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You're right though, we're always moving on to the next stage of doubt. At least we can hang out in AW while we wait.
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Congrats Elae! Yes, this is the "fun" part, right? Oy.
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Ah Elae, welcome to our ranks, the currently-subbed - we're a large community of nail-biters and email-refreshers.

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Old 04-01-2009, 08:55 PM   #1388
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Hey all. Can I join you?

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I got a copy of my agency contract today. Actually it looks more like a letter but it's got all the legalese in it. Looks pretty standard to me, but what do I know. I'm sure this question gets asked all the time, but can someone point me to a thread (or other source) that provides a good sample agency contract.
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:02 AM   #1389
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I'm not sure if we have such a thread, mikeland. When I got mine, I read through it carefully (it was about 2 pages) and highlighted anything that I had questions about. Then I called my agent and had him explain the things I didn't understand. Most of it was standard stuff, but I wanted to make sure I knew what I was signing.

There might be more info hidden in the Bewares & Background Checks forum.
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Just me--Like Jen, I got two signed copies from my agent about a week after she phoned to offer representation. I signed one and sent it back. The other was stamped for me to keep it.

It's about 2 1/2 pages of standard language.
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Thanks all! It does seem to trigger that nail-biting mode-- got a message from a number I didn't recognize yesterday and jumped, haha. Overeager, that's me.
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Does anybody know . . .
Does anybody know how this new system agents use to submit to editors works? My agent didn't explain it, but she talked about "links" -- that somehow the agent does a link and submits electronically. I would have assumed they just send an email with an attachment, but there seems to be something new-fangled and fancier.

Maybe I'll go post in "ask the editor" as well, even though I'm sure you all around here are as knowledgable as anywhere.
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Mine was a handshake agreement, but she emailed me the terms the same day I accepted so I could print them out. They were pretty basic. My reply served as my signature.
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Teriann - It may be that there is a form online somewhere that the agent can upload the file to or something like that.
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Far as I know, my agent just attached the ms. to an email.
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Mine sends them as email attachments, as far as I know-- she wanted the chapters of my graphic novel in individual PDFs, because of the size of attachments that various publisher emails allow for.
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I got a copy of my agency contract today. Actually it looks more like a letter but it's got all the legalese in it. Looks pretty standard to me, but what do I know. I'm sure this question gets asked all the time, but can someone point me to a thread (or other source) that provides a good sample agency contract.
Hi, mikeland!

We don't really have such a thread because agency contracts vary so widely in terms. But here's a little guide to help you see if the terms are "standard" (as far as such things go.) These aren't pros or cons---just examples.

1. Is there a fixed term? Many agency contracts are for a specified period, for the protection of both parties. If the agency can't sell your book, they can terminate. Likewise, if you're not happy with their services, you can terminate.

2. Watch out for what's known as an "interminable agency clause". Here's a Writer Beware blog about this clause that caused a lot of reaction a few years ago.

3. Most agency contracts specify the book being accepted. While agents tend to represent "authors" for a whole career, that first contract is just for the one book and is just extended to new books as they come along. If yours isn't, make sure the terms are acceptable to you.

4. The commission should be stated plainly, for domestic, foreign and any other rights. If the agent uses a co-op foreign agency for foreign rights sales, the details of that should be also stated in terms you understand.

5. Are the terms of payment of royalties from the publisher stated clearly? In other words, does the agreement state when collected funds are required to be disbursed to you? If not, you might insert 2 weeks from receipt and see if they'll initial the change. It's a good idea to have the requirement to pay you stated in writing. I've just worked in law too long for handshake deals, I guess, and have heard of too many author/agency relationships gone bad, with the author fighting to get their money. (Keep in mind that in the event you leave an agency, they will CONTINUE to receive their commission on books they sold.)

6. How are out-of-pocket expenses by the agent handled? This should be stated. Most agents front the money for postage, overnight and wire fees and then deduct them from your royalty checks when they arrive. If you're required to pay them up front, or are billed monthly (even if you haven't seen money from the publisher) you might see if you can change that.

7. Is there a method for cancellation that is do-able by you? For example, if you're required to send cancellation by certified mail, but you're in a different country and certified mail doesn't exist, you might change that to a different method.

I'm sure there are other things, but these are the big ones. Hope that helps!
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