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Interview with Joe Barbato
Interview by Jenna Glatzer

Joe is the co-author of Writing For a Good Cause, a book that addresses how to write fundraising material.  He is president of Barbato Associates, a consulting firm that provides writing, design, and printing services for nonprofit clients. Since 1979, he has managed editorial projects for clients ranging from colleges, hospitals, and community agencies to Special Olympics and the United Nations Foundation.  

A native New Yorker, Barbato worked for more than 10 years as a writer, editor, and communications director at New York University. He has also been a public information director at the City University of New York and an editorial director at The Nature Conservancy. He was a founder and editor of The Remington Review, he is a contributing editor of Publishers Weekly, and he has written for publications from Smithsonian and The Progressive to The New York Times and Washington Post Book World.

How did you get into the fundraising field?

I fell into fundraising.  I had studied journalism in college and planned to become a newspaper reporter.  Instead, I went into college public relations work and eventually made my way into the NYU Development Office.  I didn't know what a development office was!  It's the office that raises money for a nonprofit, and it needs a lot of writing.

How can other writers find work in this field?  Are there necessary background qualifications?

It's a great way for writers to earn their bread and butter.   Most development offices hire people "who can write" (which can mean any number of things) and who have an interest in their cause.  A professional writer is a real asset to such an office, especially one who can write persuasively.  Command of the language and an interest in the nonprofit's field are the major requirements.  When I  managed development writing staffs, I always looked for someone with a few years of journalistic writing experience (newspaper, magazine, whatever) and a polished style.  

What are the fundraising writer's job responsibilities?

The fundraising writer is like a short order cook.  He or she often has standing responsibilities-- editing a regular newsletter for donors, writing website copy, managing brochure projects, or whatever.  But the work of a development office-- where the organization often wants to move quickly to go after a major gift from a wealthy individual, for instance-- is such that a writer may have to drop everything and devote a week to writing a major proposal out of the blue.  So there are regular duties, which vary depending on the institution and its needs, and then the nutty times.

You compare a fundraising writer's pitch to potential donors to a marriage proposal.  How so?

A nonprofit cultivating a donor is like a man or woman wooing a partner.  You have to put your best foot forward.  You want to attract the other person-- not scare him or her away.  You must write out of strength.  The negative stuff about your organization is not going to win money.

We've all read the pitches that start with a tug-at-the-heartstrings human interest story-- a battered wife, a starving child, etc.  Does this approach work?  Why/why not?

The heart-strings human interest story can work as an anecdote underscoring the impact your organization makes.  But it must be used carefully, and never overdone.  Surely, it must not call attention to itself as ridiculous or soppy.  

The key element in a fundraising package is the proposal.  How long is a proposal, and what are the components?

A proposal is as long as it takes to get the money.  Seriously.  Money has been raised by writing a couple of notes on a napkin at lunch.  The more formal proposal, written by a writer back at the office, spells out the details of what the organization intends to do (the project), how, when, how results will be measured, etc., and most certainly, how this will meet all of the donor's needs.  The main trick is to let you donor see that this project will meet HIS needs (ie., goals, vision for society, etc).  This generally takes 6 to 10 double-spaced pages, but it might take 150 and need an index and sturdy binding.  What will work with THIS donor should be the operating question in determining proposal length.  We are talking about tailored work.  One size does not fit all!

It seems ironic that you advise writers NOT to let the organization sound "poor" or "too needy."  Why is this?

No, you do not want your charitable group to sound needy.  Would you give one million dollars to a place that is having trouble meeting its payroll?  

Do you suggest a specific dollar amount or timetable when you ask donors for money?  How do you determine this?

Donors are asked for what the market (their wallets) will bear.  Ask for too much, and a donor will be very annoyed.  Ask for too little, and he will be insulted.  You must know your donor.  A proposal is generally-- certainly ought to be-- a last step in a long cultivation process where your group has been courting the prospect and getting to know his needs and his worth.  You ask for the amount you think you can get, building in a bit of "stretch" so that the donor feels he or she is really stepping up to the plate.

What is a case statement?

A case statement is an expression of why you should make a major gift to a university, museum, hospice, or whatever the nonprofit.  It is the "case" for giving.  It tells precisely what the strengths and purpose and ambitions of the place are.  It is traditionally the major piece-- the bible-- of a capital campaign.  Most often it winds up being a 4-color printed piece done in a small run.  Copies are sent ahead or left behind when an executive from your nonprofit visits prospective major gifts donors.

What are the best and worst parts of your job?

The best part of the job is being able to write with passion about a cause you believe in-- and seeing money flow in as a result.  The worst is putting up with pointy-headed bureaucrats whose nit-picking can dilute the power of your words.

What's one thing you wish you'd learned earlier about fundraising writing?

How to deal with the pointy-headed bureaucrats.  We offer a lot of pointers in Writing for a Good Cause.

How competitive is this area of writing for freelancers, and what's an average salary?

A staff writer in a nonprofit development office can earn anywhere from $25,000 to $50,000 or more.  The more comes when you supervise a staff of writers, and that will be in major nonprofits.  As a freelancer, how much you charge will depend on the market-- i.e., the going rate in your region of the country and the size (and therefore budget) of the nonprofit.  Freelancers who write for corporate (for-profit) clients generally charge a bit less for nonprofits.  The better your are, the more experienced you are, the better your reputation... the more you can charge.

Anything else you'd like to add?

I would simply add that this is an odd kind of writing. Nobody studies to do it.  It is most similar to writing newspaper editorials or advertising copy, I suppose.  Yet experience in news and feature writing helps a lot too.  In a word, any good writer can learn to do development writing.  It's simply writing from a different vantage and under different conditions.  It's a perfectly honorable way for a writer to earn a living (in a time that offers many dishonorable ways).

Learn more and order Writing for a Good Cause at www.writingforagoodcause.com.

 

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