Old People Writing for Teens, IV

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lisalulu09

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I need to figure out how the hell I'm going to get to 20K. Badly.
 

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Morning everyone!

SIK, I swear to God I came here today w/a plan to post WHAT HAPPENED TO SIK? HE CAME IN WITH A VENGEANCE AND LEFT US JUST THE SAME! But then, here you are :D Thought you had abandoned us already.

Kewii, you are back in Canada from Kuwait? Do you live in Canada and you are back for good?

I watched a really cheesy horror movie last night called Five Girls. The acting was horrific (though once in a while a line was delivered somewhat decently ;)), and the plot was just all over the place. But it entertained me enough to keep me holding on til the end. I gave it 3/5 stars on Netflix.

Today it is thunder storming like a mofo. It's been lightening and thundering for over an hour. Supposed to take the girls to the library at 2pm for some superhero workshop I signed them up for and then food shopping, but I guess it's weather pending now.

As for wordage, I'm always on the high end too and then I have to cut the crap out of it. This novel I'm writing now I thought it would only be about 65K, but I'm already at 70k and still about 12-15K from the end (I think). I do end up cutting a lot of extraneous words and sentences where I sometimes "tell" something and then "show" it. Of course, I take out the telling part ;) Here is a cool list of words to look out for (I got this list from a friend who I believe got it from Janice Hardy--author of The Healing Wars Trilogy):


Words to avoid:

That
Almost
About
Very
Sat
Truly
Rather
Fairly
Really
Somewhat
Up
Down
Over
Together
Behind
Out
In order
Around
Only
Just
Even

Words to Rethink
These are words that often show up when you're telling.

As
While
Since
Although
Though
Through
Because
If
When
Before
Until

Word That Often Spell Trouble
These are words that keep us out of the moment or aren't as active as we ought to be. Adverbs, passive verbs, passive writing.

Of
Was, were (especially the was -ing forms)
Have, had
Here
There
-ly
Will be
To be
Thought
Felt
Heard
Saw
Smelled
 

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mel, I'm so copying that list and saving it for all my future revisions.

I sense a lot of control F usage in the future...
 

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So, erm... what do you guys do when you get to a point where you usually lose motivation? I need to try new methods...
 

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So, erm... what do you guys do when you get to a point where you usually lose motivation? I need to try new methods...

I either do flash fiction (from the FF challenge thread) or I hop into SYW and critique. Those sort of things get my writerly juices flowing again.

After that, if I still don't feel motivated, I realize the story I'm working on either isn't ready or isn't going to happen and move on to a different project. I've got lots of starts, a couple up to the 15k range, that just stagnated and refused to move. The two ms I've finished though never really stalled, so I wait for one of those to come along (I've got one now, yay!).
 

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Hey, Smilie! :D Yes, break from the net can be so refreshing for the mind and soul ;)

Lisa, I'm having a hard time with this now in finishing my novel. Often when I get like this, it's because something in my novel is not working. I have to figure out what. Sometimes it means completely deleting the last chapter and taking things in a different direction. Right now I'm trying to decide if this is what I need to do, or if there is something else bothering me. But I keep going into my doc and then popping over here or a million other places on the net. I really need to pummel my way through it.

Stiger, glad it could help! I find it very helpful myself (at least the words that apply to first person present), but there are def certain words I have become incredibly aware of in my own writing: just, that, very, really, up, down, etc. I always take out the word "because" because it is incredibly telling (well, not for dialogue obviously). It's amazing how easy it is to overuse the words "just" "that" and "really". I love deleting those suckers though I've become so aware of them that I often catch myself writing them while i'm writing my first drafts so I have less to clean up later.
 

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Hi! *waves*

Right now I'm wishing I had the issue of trying to find stuff to cut. I'm wanting my YA contemporary fantasy novel to come near 75k (if you want to know why, it's because an agent I wanna query said she feels YA fantasy should come in at that range), but I'm several thousand short of that goal. Now I've gotta figure out some extra scenes to work in without ruining the pace.
 

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Morning Ally!

Lisa, what do you mean by terrible teen section?
 

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Ahh, got you. I thought you meant something to do with a "teenagers" section LOL
 

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Stiger, you need me to shank a bitch? (or a bastard?) *feels violent today* *needs to find a release for my writerly frustrations*
 

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Ha, both? I recently started working with a couple people I hadn't before. No one else wanted to work with them and now I see why.

Ugh. I need to hurry up and finish my WIP and find an agent and sell bajillions of books so I can write full time. That's totally realistic, right?
 

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Stiger, of COURSE that's realistic.

:roll:

I tried telling my parents the other day that now that I have finished college, I would like to write full time. Their response --> :crazy: :crazy: "You need a job."

LOL. Back to the drawing board. (& by that I mean searching for a job :cool: I can do this, I can do this...)
 
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